unless you put "pros" on such a high pedestal that you think they should never lose no matter what, which is silly.
No need to exaggerate, Zenny
The fact you, nnils, ppapa, or other T1 guys happen to be great at this specific MOBA game does not warrant you a place on a high pedestal in my eyes, trust me
)) However, in the humble context of Demigod, I think both ppapa and nnnils are both uber-l33t 2v2 players. The very best, maybe. They are great 3v3, too -- no doubt. But 2v2 really showcases them at their best (curiously, all T1 I've seen in action are better 2v2 than 3v3, except Shane, who is the exact opposite, and therefore, my favorite T1 player; well, maybe Renz is also a bit more 3v3 than 2v2-oriented: but in his case, it's really hard to tell).