KA-CHING! Pre-ordered and looking forward to the beta, glad to see more Sins content coming out!

To get the discount I had to order from the link in the original post.

  https://www.sinsofasolarempire.com/store.aspx

I had to log in at sinsofasolarempire.com

It won't discount if buying using Impulse.

I know that might not be everyones problem but maybe it will help a few.

Trinity is $40 right now. So new customers are getting Trinity (which is part of Rebellion, it's standalone, right?) plus the new Rebellion features for $40, so the new rebellion features are essentially costing them NOTHING.

Current users have already paid at least $40 for trinity, but likely have paid $40 for the original game, and $10 for each expansion, so $60. Now they get to pay $30 for Rebellion.

$90 spent by existing customers for the same features that new customers get for $40. I think the OP has a valid point. That 25% "discount" does not seem all the great when you really look at the numbers.

It's true, Stardock/Ironclad is a business, they can't just give things away. Maybe this is the only cost model that makes sense for them to make some money, therefore it's the only way for us to get the expansion. But I ain't buyin' that theory yet, and I am a customer free to go buy something else until I am sure I am getting my money's worth.

While Rebellion may be using the Diplomacy game engine and reusing/extending the existing assets, I don't think it's fair to say it will just be Trinity plus Rebellion features yet... I'm hoping this game will diverge from the original in strategies and potentially some areas of gameplay.

Here are my reasons why this may warrant the 30 dollar price tag for existing users.

First, I don't think they realized what they had with Entrenchment. It could have easily sold for $20 dollars. The fact that it was a $10 dollar expansion was amazing. Diplomacy on the other hand fit a $10 dollar micro expansion IMO. Even with the combined $20 dollars for the expansions you are only spending $10 more for this expansion which if I'm right will add more content and strategies than the previous two combined.

Here are my reasons why this expansion "will" be worth the cost.

To me this means this is not simply Rebellion built on Trinity. New factions, unique new tech tree, new techs and ships is quite a change from what the original expansions offered.

To me this could have the same impact Entrenchment had. I'm not sure if Titans will be just beefed up capital ships or capital/starbase hybrids (i.e. level up and able to purchase specific upgrades). Either way I'm excited about this change both for the game and modding.

I'm excited to see what this will be.

Might be the answer to LRF in online play. Not sure how this impacts the game yet, but it's the first combat frigate added to the game. (Entrenchment added starbase constructors and anti-module, and Diplomacy added Envoy's).

To me this is cool... It means sub-factions have traits. I asked something similar when the ideas for new expansions thread were going. This is way more than just bringing over the existing Trinity races imo.

New eye candy is good. This will probably be even better for modders.

The current victory coditions are meh. Depending on how they do this it might be possible to create map scenarios that take advantage of the new Victory conditions.

Ok, this is really significant. Currently all level 10 capital ships of the same type look exactly the same. I like choices and just like starbases the choice has a signficant opportunity cost associated with it. Say for the Kol, if I want to build a cap killer maybe I give up on some of the anti-strikecraft abilities. This one is gold for modders too.

ICO needs retired. Nothing personal here, but Sins needs a better online mechanism including stat tracking, etc.

By all means don't buy if your not comfortable. I got in on the Elemental pre-order and wish I had waited. Now that said, I'm still looking forward to E:FE to see if that ship corrects itself. However, in this case we are working from a proven product to a new full expansion where they aren't restricted to the original game which is why we never saw significant changes to the races, research, ships etc with the previous micro-expansions.

It feels a bit premature to pre-order without screenshots. Just saying!

And I'm dissapointed to hear Rebellion won't be multithreaded. It's been what, 3 years since the first Sins came out and Ironclad is still using the same excuses? I find this absoutely absurd considering Sins is a cpu intensive game. Someone back me up on this!!

Hmm I am not sure how to feel about the pricing for this stand alone expansion, as a beta adopter of original game and all the DLC to date, even the discounted $29.95 seems high for the content so far mentioned. 

The fact we have 1 screenshot so far , doesn't exactly make it super enticing atm...

I agree. The price is higher than expected.

I pre-ordered just like everyone else here, but....

Kinda makes you wonder.... We get a sudden announcement of an expansion. Then, within the week pre-orders get going? We havent even really seen anything... If Ironclad was a stock market company, we'd have just blown our money on a scam.

no

I haven't decided if I will pre-order yet either. I may as a means to support IC but I'd like to see a little bit more.

If there is no monetarial advantage to preordering, I will certainly not. As much as I like to support the makers of products I have liked in the past, the only person I will pre-order from now is my tailor -- got burnt way too badly by Elemental: WoM, and that after investing a lot of my time and energy for them in months of Beta. I'll wait for a product (and possibly a few patches if necessary) or some form of substantial rebate.

I will wait too, as they left us alone with the last patch and the heavy overpowered Vasaricarrier. all of my friends stoped playing sins because of this carrier. I mean i play vasari, but it was just boring to play over and over again against the same strat.  I expected a small bugfixpatch for that. Now, as the want to make money again, they come out with a patch.

I think they lost the love for this game at these dark days....

For the success of sins i realy hope they arent to late now.