Elemental site format: Please bring back the old color scheme

This is pretty bad. I'm finding it hard to focus, I've gotten a headache after reading a few threads, and the whole thing reminds me of some angsty tween's geocities or LJ account. I avoid the sins forums because of this crap

Also why cant we access all of elemental's sub forums through the Impulse client?

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Quoting Sushikawa,

reply 26

I avoid the sins forums because of this crap

Cya then....

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Quoting Raven X,

reply 24

Quoting Wintersong, reply 18

Quoting edpfister,
reply 11
This really should be it's own thread but I can't create one. The Elemental War of Magic title is sitting over all the buttons and at the top of the screen and they are mostly unclickable for me. Logining in is a real pain so I'm lucky I'm able to post at all. IE 7 issue apparently. Didn't try IE 8 so not sure if it has the same problem.

It's in IE8 as well, Winter. I think it's a IE thing no matter what version really. I don't use Firefox or any other browser, so I hope they get it fixed soon because it makes surfing the forums nie impossible without a lot of extra clicks, and I can't start a new thread at all nor can I update the ideas list because the "Edit" button is un-reachable on my post.

Confirmed. I must use Firefox to visit the forums now.

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Wintersong

Join Date 07/2006

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Quoting Tormy-,

reply 28

Confirmed. I must use Firefox to visit the forums now.

Haha. I must use Chrome if I want to edit the HTML of a post. Would need it if I were to try to create a new thread. And surely need it to navigate that "Home > Elemental/Misc > etc" part.

I know that Frogboy loves Chrome but come on, discrimination because of browser? Because in that case, shouldn't it favour IE? (Stardock being Windows based and all that) Could we get access to Beta Test the designs and offer feedback if we have one account in your forums and at least one product purchased?

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Tridus

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Quoting Anomander,

reply 27

Cya then....

Since the whole point of a game website is to encourage people to come read and post, this is entirely the wrong attitude.

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Tridus

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Quoting Sushikawa,

reply 26

This is pretty bad. I'm finding it hard to focus, I've gotten a headache after reading a few threads, and the whole thing reminds me of some angsty tween's geocities or LJ account. I avoid the sins forums because of this crap

Also why cant we access all of elemental's sub forums through the Impulse client?

Agreed. I thought yesterday with the brighter text it'd help, but today I'm getting a headache trying to read it.

If we can't change it back to the old style by default, can you at least create an alternate CSS file so that the people who find this physically painful can swap to something better? That's a pretty easy thing to do.

(I tried disabling styles entirely, and although that makes the page a nice black on white, it also seems to mess with the reply box. I guess I could just turn it back on to reply.)

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The best fix is to take the yellowish color that's used on the Karma number, User name, Forum categories, etc and use that for post text, and use a very very light gray for the stuff yellow is used for now. The yellow is much easier to read posts with.

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Quoting Tridus,

reply 30

Quoting Anomander, reply 27
Cya then....
Since the whole point of a game website is to encourage people to come read and post, this is entirely the wrong attitude.

Surely the point is to encourage the RIGHT type of people...

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Quoting Anomander,

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Quoting Tridus,
reply 30

Quoting Anomander, reply 27
Cya then....
Since the whole point of a game website is to encourage people to come read and post, this is entirely the wrong attitude.

Surely the point is to encourage the RIGHT type of people...

And that would be you with that attitude? You'r not helping anything or anyone by that.

Anyways - aye, just a style change option please. Not so hard to do, must forums have them these days.

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By the gods, all this black is making me depressed!

It also looks awesome!

I'm not sure why, though, but it feels blurred somehow and I'm getting a slight headache after less than 5 minutes. Could be psychosomatic, though. Or possibly the grey-on-black text. Perhaps whiten it a bit?

Edit: Oh godammit, I just realized that all my bordered avatars are ruined. Goddamn.

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Quoting Razgon,

reply 34

Quoting Anomander, reply 33

Quoting Tridus,
reply 30

Quoting Anomander, reply 27
Cya then....
Since the whole point of a game website is to encourage people to come read and post, this is entirely the wrong attitude.

Surely the point is to encourage the RIGHT type of people...

And that would be you with that attitude? You'r not helping anything or anyone by that.

Anyways - aye, just a style change option please. Not so hard to do, must forums have them these days.

I did help him.... on his way!

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Tridus

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Quoting Anomander,

reply 33

Quoting Tridus, reply 30
Quoting Anomander, reply 27
Cya then....
Since the whole point of a game website is to encourage people to come read and post, this is entirely the wrong attitude.
Surely the point is to encourage the RIGHT type of people...

So you're saying that long time contributors like GW and Luckmann who are getting headaches from the color scheme are the "wrong" kind of people?

Really, if a website design is causing physical discomfort for users, that's a clear indication something is wrong with the design.

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Quoting Tridus,

reply 37

Quoting Anomander, reply 33
Quoting Tridus, reply 30
Quoting Anomander, reply 27
Cya then....
Since the whole point of a game website is to encourage people to come read and post, this is entirely the wrong attitude.
Surely the point is to encourage the RIGHT type of people...
So you're saying that long time contributors like GW and Luckmann who are getting headaches from the color scheme are the "wrong" kind of people?

Really, if a website design is causing physical discomfort for users, that's a clear indication something is wrong with the design.

No you're saying they are, I'm saying that people who say its 'crap' are.

And Headaches and physical discomfort, oh please, come on and get real....

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Philocthetes

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For those who don't like the new design, while not the same thing, you can view the page with StarDock's default theme here:

https://forums.stardock.com/forum/511

I think that might be a better compromise for me than some browser add-on, but at the moment it seems to only work for Elemental General and Dev Journals. I can't get threads from the Beta, Mods, or Ideas areas to load in that view.

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Man, you guys are killing me. Who gives a shit about the color when most of us (using IE 7 & 8 ) CAN'T MAKE NEW POSTS. The colors are IRRELEVANT when posting functionality is Screwed!!!

From what I've seen the colors all come down to our Personal Tastes, our individual Opinions. I could say that I think only the old people with bad eyes are whining about the color change. Or I could say only nerds don't like Black Backgrounds with Red text....but I'm not going to say that and that's Not how I feel on the matter. It's also Not Cool to down people or call them names (even indirectly) because they may or may not like the new colors. I think we're all mature enough (or should be anyway) not to down on each other because some of us like the new colors and some don't. The Colors, no matter what they are, are IRRELEVANT When We Can't Post Or Navigate The Forums.

As for Personal Preference, the combination of Black and Red have ALWAYS been my two favorite colors and they Always Will Be no matter how old I get or bad my eyes get. When it really comes down to it though, white text on a black background is much easier to see and read for me. White background with Black Text is ok too. Bottom line is though I think we can refrain from flaming each other based on our own personal color tastes, wouldn't you all agree?

Let's Concentrate on WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT HERE... FIX THAT DAMN LOGO SO WE HAVE FUNCTIONALITY BACK WITH INTERNET EXPLORER. Microsoft's Internet Explorer is the MOST COMMON WEB BROWSER, Period. Stardock customers should NOT Be Forced to install another web browser just so we can get forum functionality back.

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Man, you guys are killing me. Who gives a shit about the color when most of us (using IE 7 & 8 ) CAN'T MAKE NEW POSTS. The colors are IRRELEVANT when posting functionality is Screwed!!!

So don't be an ass and go make a new thread. This is a thread about the color scheme, it says so in the topic. If you have a problem with posting, go make a new thread and stop trolling this one.

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Tridus

Join Date 03/2008

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Quoting Raven X,

reply 40

Man, you guys are killing me. Who gives a shit about the color when most of us (using IE 7 & 8 ) CAN'T MAKE NEW POSTS. The colors are IRRELEVANT when posting functionality is Screwed!!!

Since we're in a thread dedicated specifically to the color scheme, the color scheme is in fact highly relevant. Anything else is off topic... like your posts.

Hell, the color scheme problem isn't easily fixed. Your problem is: upgrade to a modern, non-obsolete PoS browser. Problem solved.

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I don't like the change. I agree that it is very hard to read, fuzzy and dull. The large Elemental logo covers up the menus at the top, so there is no way to access the 'options' to make any changes to the way I see it. No way to navigate anywhere but the recent posts.

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Tridus

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Quoting GW Swicord,

reply 39

For those who don't like the new design, while not the same thing, you can view the page with StarDock's default theme here:

https://forums.stardock.com/forum/511
I think that might be a better compromise for me than some browser add-on, but at the moment it seems to only work for Elemental General and Dev Journals. I can't get threads from the Beta, Mods, or Ideas areas to load in that view.

If you're using Firefox, click on View > Page Style. You can disable the styles from there, which change the site back to a super basic black on white. The layout gets blown away and the post box is screwed up, but for the purpose of reading it works.

IIRC Opera has similar functionality. Not sure about Chrome or Safari.

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Quoting Tridus,

reply 42

Quoting Raven X,
reply 40
Man, you guys are killing me. Who gives a shit about the color when most of us (using IE 7 & 8 ) CAN'T MAKE NEW POSTS. The colors are IRRELEVANT when posting functionality is Screwed!!!

Since we're in a thread dedicated specifically to the color scheme, the color scheme is in fact highly relevant. Anything else is off topic... like your posts.

Hell, the color scheme problem isn't easily fixed. Your problem is: upgrade to a modern, non-obsolete PoS browser. Problem solved.

I can't change the browser on my work computer.

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Tridus

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Quoting Anomander,

reply 38

No you're saying they are, I'm saying that people who say its 'crap' are.

And Headaches and physical discomfort, oh please, come on and get real....

I am being real, and I'm not the only one experiencing it. What we've got in this thread is people posting feedback and having a discussion... and you being a troll.

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Quoting Annatar11,

reply 41

Man, you guys are killing me. Who gives a shit about the color when most of us (using IE 7 & 8 ) CAN'T MAKE NEW POSTS. The colors are IRRELEVANT when posting functionality is Screwed!!!

So don't be an ass and go make a new thread. This is a thread about the color scheme, it says so in the topic. If you have a problem with posting, go make a new thread and stop trolling this one.

I'd be HAPPY TO but I CAN'T MAKE A NEW THREAD. And...I'm Not being an ass...nice to see that maturity shining through there Anna...

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Quoting Tridus,

reply 42

Quoting Raven X,
reply 40
Man, you guys are killing me. Who gives a shit about the color when most of us (using IE 7 & 8 ) CAN'T MAKE NEW POSTS. The colors are IRRELEVANT when posting functionality is Screwed!!!

Since we're in a thread dedicated specifically to the color scheme, the color scheme is in fact highly relevant. Anything else is off topic... like your posts.

Hell, the color scheme problem isn't easily fixed. Your problem is: upgrade to a modern, non-obsolete PoS browser. Problem solved.

Tridus...seeing as how EVERY PC put out that's running Windows is using IE by default, I'd think calling it "Obsolete" is a matter of Opinion...wouldn't you? Seriously...I thought you were more mature then this too then to jump on the hate bandwagon...

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GunslingerBara

Join Date 10/2008

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I've resolved the issue with the logo sitting on top of the links in IE7 and IE8 (with compatibility mode on). I've also changed the colors around a bit. The backgrounds are a bit more golden/brownish and the text is a bit more yellow. Thanks to Das123 for the suggestions

Bara

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Quoting Anomander,

reply 38

Quoting Tridus, reply 37
Quoting Anomander, reply 33
Quoting Tridus, reply 30
Quoting Anomander, reply 27
Cya then....
Since the whole point of a game website is to encourage people to come read and post, this is entirely the wrong attitude.
Surely the point is to encourage the RIGHT type of people...
So you're saying that long time contributors like GW and Luckmann who are getting headaches from the color scheme are the "wrong" kind of people?

Really, if a website design is causing physical discomfort for users, that's a clear indication something is wrong with the design.
No you're saying they are, I'm saying that people who say its 'crap' are.

And Headaches and physical discomfort, oh please, come on and get real....

I'm real, and I know better than you if I have headaches after less than 10 minutes. I still endure the pain because I want to read the infos, but for sure I'll be less present on the forum if it's so painfull.

EDIT : thanks bara, it's less painfull, but still ... is it so hard to create css files to choose from ? I understand the will to stay with the elemental design, but I'd like to have choice.

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