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yet another LAN problem

hooked up with a cable and all firewalls off?

July 12, 2010 2:56:54 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

I'm trying to play Sins-Trinity between a Vista Desktop and a Windows 7 Laptop

If i set it up the old school way with a cable and take off firewalls, we can both see eachothers games and attempt to join. As many others on this forum I get the error message something along the lines of "Disconnected from server host" (sorry, it's some time ago and I couldn't bother to turn both pc's on and set it up ot check)

I've read many places on these forums that it's all about "portforwarding", and that I need to forward port 6112 and possibly 6000, I would be completely fine with this if my internet wasn't supplied by my Dad's job (I haven't got the password or username for my router, and no admin/admin or administrator/administrator doesn't work). Could Changing the port used when hosting make a difference (changing it from the default 6112)

Just wanted to ask and make sure that port forwarding is the only solution, because in most other cases both pc's weren't able to see eachothers games. And yes, i have hamachi and I tried it. just gives me a whole new set of error when I join.

Any help greatly appreciated! Disloyal_Ape

 

 

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Reply #1 July 12, 2010 3:04:12 PM
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You could try a crossover cable, basically a lan cable that does away with the need for a router and there cheap.

 

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Reply #2 July 12, 2010 4:55:27 PM
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I'm pretty sure the cable I'm using is a crossover cable, I have used it to host games in e.g. Company of heroes

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Reply #3 July 12, 2010 5:47:31 PM
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Have you tried playing over Ironclad Online instead?  You might have better luck hosting that way since you would be able to use Alloy.

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Reply #4 July 12, 2010 7:39:56 PM
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Quoting ,
quoting post

I've read many places on these forums that it's all about "portforwarding", and that I need to forward port 6112 and possibly 6000, I would be completely fine with this if my internet wasn't supplied by my Dad's job (I haven't got the password or username for my router, and no admin/admin or administrator/administrator doesn't work). Could Changing the port used when hosting make a difference (changing it from the default 6112)

Just wanted to ask and make sure that port forwarding is the only solution, because in most other cases both pc's weren't able to see eachothers games. And yes, i have hamachi and I tried it. just gives me a whole new set of error when I join.

Any help greatly appreciated! Disloyal_Ape

 

 

No, changing a port will not matter.  If you can't set things up to forward all traffic coming in on a specific port to a specified system it's not going to matter what number/port you assign that traffic to.

Any blockages on a "network-path" must be handled correctly (ie. with forwarding of traffic)  OR  encapsulating traffic so it can tunnel past blockages (ie. the way Hamachi does it or by using the ALLOY hosting method mentioned by DirtySanchez)

thanks,

 

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Reply #5 July 12, 2010 8:16:26 PM
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Quoting DirtySanchezz,
reply 3
Have you tried playing over Ironclad Online instead?  You might have better luck hosting that way since you would be able to use Alloy.

I'm playing 2 pc's LAN on one cd-key, I can't play online 2 at the same time can I?

Sounds to me from what you're saying, that Hamachi should work. But I tried it and I got an error about the two games not being the same patch (somethin about differing "mesh files"), but they're both v 1.011 (or something like that)

thx for the replies

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Reply #6 July 12, 2010 9:19:07 PM
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oops double post 

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Reply #7 July 12, 2010 9:23:11 PM
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Ha, mesh files again. 

Fix for "Your mesh files differ from the host". 

Unable to Host a Game Troubleshooting Checklist

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Reply #8 July 13, 2010 8:45:35 AM
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Quoting myfist0,
reply 7
Ha, mesh files again. 

Fix for "Your mesh files differ from the host". 

Unable to Host a Game Troubleshooting Checklist

I guess that's the only solution then, it might be because I had the demo and didn't properly un-install it before installing Trinity

Sucks though as I have a so far 7 hour game going , which will be gone if I re-install (or can I manually save it somewhere else?)

 

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Reply #9 July 13, 2010 12:18:01 PM
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The Mesh problem is most likely the game itself and not you.

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Reply #10 July 13, 2010 12:35:38 PM
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Saved games are not deleted with un-install. I dont think any of the files or folders in 

C:\Users\myfist0\AppData\Local\Ironclad Games\Sins of a Solar Empire

are deleted. Mods, saves, maps etc

Saved games will not work when updating or changing mods

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Reply #11 July 13, 2010 4:53:15 PM
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Ok, will try to re-install and re-update on both pc's. Then launch through Hamachi

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Reply #12 July 13, 2010 5:00:34 PM
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Re-installing from a disk might put those mesh files back depending how old your disk is. Just delete the bad mesh files and verify install with impulse. 

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Reply #13 July 13, 2010 5:14:55 PM
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I'll try and delete the files mentioned in your earlier links, first

EDIT: Those files mentioned in you link we're the same

BUT I FIXED IT, I shared my mesh file folders from the three different games= original sins, entrenchment and diplomacy. I then deleted the mesh folders on the other pc (my laptop in this case) and inserted the ones from my desktop, ensuring they are the same. So now it works, still far quicker than re-installing everything 

Thx for all the usefull replies though

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