The pokeballs get sidetracked pretty easily. I wish I could just summon them without giving them a direction. They don't seem that great until level 15. Plus, if you summon them while next to the square holes on Cataract, they get stuck over the holes.

Ep, maybe it just seems easy for me since I've been microing shamblers for so long.  I've got R hotkeyed as my select special minions button, so I just select them and send them at an enemy dg or tower right away.

Synn... what other battlecrown did you think I was referring to?  The Hungarling Not A Battlecrown Just A Regular Crown?

Occulus is currently the best DG available and he will dominate every 2v2 and 3v3 game if played well.

Too many tools on him, too much burst. Believe it.

Yea I don't know who/what that is.

Finally, someone else gets it.

Hilarious how everyone is whining about how he's not good enough now, but as soon as people figure out the potential for abuse... its gonna be pretty much the exact opposite of how things went with Demon Assassin.

Believe it.

Yeah, kingslet cleared house tonight with Occulus. Is he perhaps a Tier 0 Demigod?

I don't understand Occulus quite yet. He has an ability that is supposed to give nearby allies a chance to inflict lightning damage. If it affects minions then I think you need to view that skill as a supplement to Ball Lightning the way coven, conversion aura, entourage, etc. are necessary for their respective casters' minions.

However, if that ability does not affect minions, then Ball Lightning is just awful until level 15 when it becomes ridiculously powerful for all the wrong reasons. Regardless I don't think it makes sense to play Occ the way you do other generals no matter how the minions work. They're not persistent creatures that you can spawn for free or keep from fight to fight. You need mana for them and Occy also has what is probably the best ranged nuke in the game, allowing him to affect a fight without actively engaging in it.

That being said, I don't think the morale builds are a good way to play any DG, so perhaps I'm mistaken. He's still quite new, though in my limited experience with the orbs they seem inferior to whatever else you could take.

Also it doesn't seem to indicate that it's restricted to your own minions or character. Does it affect creep waves or another general's troops? I assume it wouldn't, but I really don't know.

So Uhhh... what happens when you face off against 3 health stacked Occs? 3vs3? Seems like you die pretty badly. Chain lightning delivers alot of ranged firepower, and the chain radius seems quite large.

What favor is everyone using? Blood? Or cloak of the night for some double jumping? I also tried a ring of divine might build with morale, +lightning aura and balls... still seems kind of weak compared to assassin style build (which is probably overpowered), but as far as minion builds go it's OK to good? Clearing away the creeps by using divine might seems very helpful for balls so they hit the things you want them too. Also Occ has nice health and range, so I am thinking he can be a viable "hardcore" minion build instead of the typical hybrids.

Anyone take King of the Minotaurs? The extra mana and damage is nice, but the extra health seems like a deceptive way to get yourself mangled, unless you park the minotaurs away safely somewhere or something.

Lord:  I tried only putting one point in Blast Off and the extra in King last night and it worked pretty well... just park your minotaurs behind the crystal and thats an extra 1000 hp for 325 gold... and a few skill points of course.

Thats what I meant Synn, but phrased it poorly.  The general strat is to put 4 in Blast Off so I meant the extra 3...

I think there will be some adjust to Occulus. Because lightning ball at lvl 15 stay like 20-30sec then they all disapear. Seriously it will be usefull only in mass pvp, like 3 vs 3. Recharge mana can be nice if u can do it on yourself too. Skills that increase stat with minions could be nice but u need at least 1 lvl in there and u need 1 of each kind of minions. i only test it in 1 game with AI. I cant wait to see how ppl will make a build with this char