Man there are so many things wrong with life's suggestions I don't know where to start.
Quoting lifekatana, reply 556
First of all he pretends that this battle was unwinnable from the start
Screw that, I was trying to win like it was nobodies business. Whenever I am up against renz, you will see me fight tooth and nail.
Quoting lifekatana, reply 556
While his teammates weren't the best they certainly weren't that bad and I pretty sure a good queen would have won this. There was one point where his team managed to wipe out the enemy which showed how good spikes really are. If he had pushed that advantage instead of foolishly returning to base.
First of all I had demibug die a few times due to bad plays feeding a VERY STRONG team of Renz and McShane, now I don't know if you've played with McShane but he is a total badass. In that one point you are talking about where we did beat two of them, if you actually watching I did try to push, I ran towards the base but they had giants that were crushing me, I had to pop a sigil. I was around 1500 after sigiled and I knew I was extremely gankable still, so I thought at least my teammates could try and run and flag capture but no, this is where pugging isn't great.
First of all I'd like to reiterate that I don't think you played BAD. I just think you didn't play so good that you deserve a place in the tier I Because of this match. I know you play assasins very well. You had oak/UB and queen. This combination does Massive damage with spikes. Heinz and demibug are not bad players. Let me start. He begins with a cookie cutter build, level up shield and spikes with cloack of night. Now I don't agree with this build, but even if we forgive him for that... he takes mulch I and II but DOESNT take shamblers. Mulch is COMPLETLY useless without shamblers.
*sigh* Let me guess, you would rather me go SHAMBLES against a TB. Yeah, because minions and uproot works well against a TB and DOG WITH OOZE. So yeah my bad, I should of gone morale...*Rolls eyes*. And cloak of the night saves a QoT many a time, not to mention the added mana regen, so no idea what you do anyway.
I already forgave you for taking that build. It's ok. What's not ok(in my opinion) is not getting idols, EVEN with TB. Idols are extremely cheap and do massive dg in combination with spikes. Basically they're a couple of gloves for cheap that don't take up slots. I actually think cloack did help you at evading deaths but it was shit for actually pushing.Regarding Mulch that is my own style of play. There is absoluetly no point in prioriting shamblers over mulch and vice versa. They both suck till you get level 2 mulch, when I get level two mulch, I can then invest one level into shamblers so I can then pull one out and eat it straight away. I don't attack with shamblers, espically against UB and TB. If you need me to spell it out for you.
While mulch I isnt THAT good, it certainly isn't as bad as you claim. If you have the mana(and you had) you can easily heal off most of TB's dmg.Early game he doesnt shield his allies at crystal. Then overextends and has to retun to base at level 2(for the record I as a queen player don't leave a lane till atleast level 7), then buys scaled, a port and A SIGIL?? He has 2k hp and he buys a sigil? Now most of ThatGuy games revolve around attacking running back to base, getting lots of sigils and a port and trying to gank someone. That's basically his whole strat, and while thats fine for UB... he does it with queen too.
I've never ever understood the point of shield at crystal, this is what happens. You shield at crystal, your teammates goes to the xp flag, the people on the enemy team don't get the flag and go to mana and hp, then by the time the person you shielded gets to hp or mana, HIS SHIELD RUNS OUT. All this does is waste QoT's own time shielding at the crystal and trying to bring mana back up. I rather not waste time and just go for the fight straight away. My main play style was to play off the UB, if we didn't get kills or let our selfs get ganked, we might as well of conceded straight away. And yes I get sigils because luring is a very viable strategy, almost no one expects and early game sigil when overcommiting, that sigil may give me time to reshield and bring my allies close enough to make sure he does not escape. I am allowed to overextend too, that is the fun of CLOAK, it lets you try and steal a gold mine.
Yes I don't do it either, I know shield queens swear by it though.
You know of course that a small potion would practically be just as effective, less dangerous, better for pushing, AND way CHEAPER. Sigils are good sure, but they're aren't the only consumable. Besides banded armor is just as cheap and is way way more usefull. Early queen isn't about kills or lures, it's about solid farming, pushing, and tower killing. You're trying to apply an UB mentality to Queen:'My main play style was to play off the UB, if we didn't get kills or let our selfs get ganked, we might as well of conceded straight away.". What? Queen doesn't kill, queen pushes and destroys towers. If you had instead of trying to get kills with a character that has absolutely no killing potention pushed lanes, and downed towers(and outleveled the other team...) you could have won this easily. Your selection was the superior one, and you only had to wait till you both got giants when you're better fighting skill and aoe would push out the other team. The other team had sedna for gods sake. They had mediocre dmg apart from UB, some support damage and stuns and a heal. You lacked the number of stuns they had, but massively out damaged them, and had more supporting skills(shields).
and tbh the reason he doesnt die is because the other team lacks enough Tier I to really turn up the pain(only UB) and his sigil abuse.
I will leave it with that because that is the icing on the troll cake. McShane and Renz are wayyy better then you can ever be.
That's strange... because I beat him. Once even with queen.
And if you even think about claiming (Even thinking) you are better then Renz or Shane, simply let us make a match, no need to make claims or whine and moan, just let us make a match. I would enjoy uploading that replay.
Apart that I have no teammates to play with right now and we have different timezones, that's ok.
The fact remains however that THAT was not a briliant queen replay. Also you completly negated the body of my post, which is where it was all about: you tried to kill with queen and thereby lost focus to your real purpose, pushing and lane control. QoT is not UB.
Later on he gets plenor helm without vlemisch, which gives him(scaled+cloack of night+naturalregen=12) 120% mps(from closed buff and plenor helm) and 1500 mana, this is around 25 mps. If he had taken vlemisch he would have had (scaled+cloack+vlemisch+natural regen=28) 42 mps and 1k mana extra. Thats 17 mps more than with plenor. 500/17= 29 secs to regen the 500 mana.
Midgame goes on with him running to the lane, expending mana/health and fighting a battle and running back and that leaves him undereleveled(lvl 6 vs lvl 8) which as queen is a very bad thing to do.
For the rest his build is littered with bad skill choices and itemisation(sigils+hauberk...), no idols, etc.