Xavior, for once you are right. Ranged suck suck suck suck. Melee has way too many distance closers way too many ranged attacks(wtf spit? It has a lower cast time than fireball, is a ranged attack on a melee char and does almost TWICE as much damage.) and way more health and damage.

(also nerf ports locks and sigils, they're used way too much. Making them nonstackable or only double stackable should fix that.)

Oh I agree. It's minor fixes that need to be implimented. If TB's base stats were a little higher. If fireballs cast speed was a little slower. I do prefer buffs but mainly i'm stating people are overthinking this game and aren't looking at the practical aplications. While uproots stats may seem amazing doing a massive 200 dps to buildings without you being there and even with a low mana cost. Looking at the practical stand point it isn't nearly as effective as you would think.

The thing is you are doing 142 dps and thats 1 second out of 7 that needs to be taken to put this on your target. While spit is a hit and forget. Plus with that one level 15 ability the dps jumps to 250 for 5 second and reapplying it every 10 seconds makes the mean dps around 200. This is in addition to it being almost uninteruptable plus having ooze doing constantly 135 dps and then PREVENTING damage by slowing attack speed of enemies. Not looking at the just the stats doing 1500 damage over 15 seconds is more effective than doing 1000 damage in 1 second. You may take taht 1k and realize i need to go to the health crystal but taking 1500 damage from spit you don't relize how much of a chunk it is going to take out. You may go back into battle while 1000 spit damage is still stored. Then run at 500 health and die just because spit. While fireball is either going to finish you or not and if you know they are going to do an instant 1k you run at 1.5k. Physycological effects also apply just as much.

My point isn't that Fireball is as powerful as spit or that TB doesn't need buffs. My point was that there's numerical consistency between many of the skills in this game, which I was trying to point out with my frist post when I said that most DGs have a primary attack on a 7 second cooldown and a second on a 15 second'ish cooldown, so spines should be compared to Fire Nova since they're both secondary attacks. The consistent DPS numbers between even Spit and Fireball just show, to me, that the devs had that numerical consistency in mind when they laid out the abilities, regardless of how fair the game ended up being.