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Reply #26 July 1, 2009 2:09:11 AM
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Quoting transitive,
reply 15
i tried it in a few games vs. CPU today just to see if it really does have a noticeable impact. 

 

i found that it does not. slowing auto-attacks by 30% for the first few seconds of a battle is going to save you somewhere in the range of about 200-300 damage (depending on armor levels, enemy attack speed and damage, being in melee range, etc.)

its really a very small amount and not all enemy DG's will actually care that much. doesn't effect their minions or damage spells so you may not even be debuffing the most relevant damage source on the field. 

 

and yea, it bugged out on me alot. got the "stuck for 10 seconds" bug on several occasions. that bug alone is such a huge risk that i would never use this item in a competitive match. 

Does it stack with Ooze?

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Reply #27 July 1, 2009 2:22:37 AM
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Cloak of Flame makes the circle of Fire.  The actual circle, however, is generally secondary to the 20 mps, and +30% attack speed it gives you.  All three things make it a pretty decent artifact pickup for late game (Kills waves of creeps, also makes you deadlier).

Not that I often buy anything from artifact shops other than Rejuv elixirs.

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Reply #28 July 1, 2009 2:28:13 AM
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Quoting PurplePaladin,
reply 25
Can anybody tell me what that "Warp Stone" is suppose to be good at?  My friend got it last weekend during our Lan game.  He thought it was like an unlimited TP scroll.  But when he tried to use it, all it would do is TP him about 1 1/2 inches away; then cool down for 45 secs.  He ask "what good is it?", I told him I had no idea. For $5500, I though it would have some semi-uber use anyway.  If it's for quick getaways, I'd just buy the wand of speed.

 

You can use it to warp across lanes because of the independence from the need of buildings or friendly structures. On Crucible if you are lucky you can use that to teleport across to enemy citadel area from the artifacts area. It does require luck since the range is just enough.

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Reply #29 July 1, 2009 2:33:23 AM
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It's sort of odd that this item was chosen as #1. I would have chosen Magnus Rod, Universal Gadget, or Totem of Revelation.

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Reply #30 July 1, 2009 2:41:09 AM
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Quoting Epiphenomenon,
reply 4
It's sort of odd that this item was chosen as #1. I would have chosen Magnus Rod, Universal Gadget, or Totem of Revelation.

 

Universal Gadget and Totem of Revelation are quite frequently used. Universal Gadget is quite versatile despite being pricy, it can also be used to heal towers. Totem of Revelation are just damn cheap and can be used passively to increase sight range. A must for regulus and as a counter to mine regulus.

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Reply #31 July 1, 2009 2:50:19 AM
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The most "under used item" is common sense... then again sense isn't that common to begin with...

 

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Reply #32 July 1, 2009 3:09:34 AM
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Can anybody tell me what that "Warp Stone" is suppose to be good at? My friend got it last weekend during our Lan game. He thought it was like an unlimited TP scroll. But when he tried to use it, all it would do is TP him about 1 1/2 inches away; then cool down for 45 secs. He ask "what good is it?", I told him I had no idea. For $5500, I though it would have some semi-uber use anyway. If it's for quick getaways, I'd just buy the wand of speed.
It is good to run away, chase someone, get that little bit closer to help out a dying friend, cut threw corners between lanes (like in Cataract), the list continues.

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Reply #33 July 1, 2009 3:12:58 AM
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Warp stone was at one time one of the best items in the game. However, it has since been nerfed and isn't used much anymore

It's still very helpful for getting out of select situations, such as a wyrmskin UB's slowing attacks.

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Reply #34 July 1, 2009 3:38:06 AM
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Huh, I never knew that it is not a consumable (though it should have been obvious). Maybe I'll use that item more often now.

 

 

Quoting Epiphenomenon,
reply 4
It's sort of odd that this item was chosen as #1. I would have chosen Magnus Rod, Universal Gadget, or Totem of Revelation.
Universal Gadget and Totem of Revelation. are used frequently...

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Reply #35 July 1, 2009 5:03:31 AM
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Quoting PurplePaladin,
reply 25
Can anybody tell me what that "Warp Stone" is suppose to be good at?  My friend got it last weekend during our Lan game.  He thought it was like an unlimited TP scroll.  But when he tried to use it, all it would do is TP him about 1 1/2 inches away; then cool down for 45 secs.  He ask "what good is it?", I told him I had no idea. For $5500, I though it would have some semi-uber use anyway.  If it's for quick getaways, I'd just buy the wand of speed.

Jumping up behind someone, suprise attacks.

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Reply #36 July 1, 2009 6:19:50 AM
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I use the cloak of the night as a favor item, which is basically a warp stone with some mana bonuses. 

I play erebus.

The warp is good for
1.) Teleporting in to close the gap to ranged units that run away (regulus+tb) to get a quick bite (nice because unlike bat swarm it doesn't take mana, so there's no chance of not having enough mana for the bite after the tp)
2.) Teleporting out of bad combat situations (it's not much distance, but creating any kind of distance means the enemy can't hack at you while you run away)
3.) Crossing small gaps on some maps to save time getting back to base or capping flags.

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Reply #37 July 1, 2009 8:28:15 AM
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Quoting Epiphenomenon,
reply 1

Does it stack with Ooze?

 

Yes

 

 At least before 1.1, haven't tried it since because of how much it got me stuck or wouldn't activate.

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Reply #38 July 2, 2009 4:39:58 PM
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Warpstone needs 0 cast time and about half the price. Otherwise anyone who wants this ability will just choose Cloak of Night.

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Reply #39 July 2, 2009 6:24:56 PM
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Quoting MABManZ,
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Warpstone needs 0 cast time and about half the price. Otherwise anyone who wants this ability will just choose Cloak of Night.

Assuming that the only people who want that ability are generals.

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Reply #40 July 2, 2009 6:54:25 PM
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Quoting MABManZ,
reply 13
Warpstone needs 0 cast time and about half the price. Otherwise anyone who wants this ability will just choose Cloak of Night.

 

I dunno about taking the price down, but definately the cast time. The only time I've ever wanted to waste 5k on it is on crucible, where it actually won me the match.

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Reply #41 July 3, 2009 2:36:54 PM
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I think Warpstone should be a consumable.

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Reply #42 July 3, 2009 8:49:55 PM
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Warpstone needs 0 cast time and about half the price. Otherwise anyone who wants this ability will just choose Cloak of Night.

The warpstone absolutely destroyed the game when it was cheaper in the beta. It cost like 3 or 3.5k and it was absoletly the most OP item in the game (or one of).

I would rather it was useless then as it was before.

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