PETITION: Ban option in lobby » Forum Post by Helios

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I completely agree. This is a pretty standard feature in most RTS's.

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Before the flaming starts, hear me out. I've played numerous games where i would kick a player for a high ping or for being a ragequitter in a previous game, and said player would rejoin constantly forcing me to kick him/her again. This is frustrating. So i want to start a petition to have a ban option in lobby. This option would disallow the player from rejoining that lobby until the game was finished, and then could rejoing the hosts game once he makes a new one, unless he is banned again of course.

This way people wouldnt be banned forever, and it would disallow spamming. What do you think?

First point, if you ban a player for having a high ping or being a ragequitter the first time, you would not ban him the second time and third time? That's like saying I arrest you for breaking into my house the first time, I will not arrest you for breaking into my house again...So doesn't that mean that player will be banned forever from any games you host? I guess he could try different hosts, but wouldn't they do the same? I mean, most hosts prefer low-ping, non-ragequitter players correct? Second point, if there's a ban option the lobby, I think some bad-mannered players will abuse that option and banning people who they think is too good or too bad or having opinions they disagree with. Third, I don't think rejoining a game is spamming. And I think you are being lazy, kicking a player out of the lobby is not frustrating at all.

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There should some sort of in-game list function, where you can add as many players as you want and those players won't be able to enter any game you host (unless you remove them from the list), and if they enter a game in which someone else is hosting in which you're in, you get an alert message.

You should also be able to attach a comment to every name, so you can remember why you put them on the list, like shit sim speed/ ragequit after first blood/ plays terribly etc.

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Quoting windtotem,

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Before the flaming starts, hear me out. I've played numerous games where i would kick a player for a high ping or for being a ragequitter in a previous game, and said player would rejoin constantly forcing me to kick him/her again. This is frustrating. So i want to start a petition to have a ban option in lobby. This option would disallow the player from rejoining that lobby until the game was finished, and then could rejoing the hosts game once he makes a new one, unless he is banned again of course.

This way people wouldnt be banned forever, and it would disallow spamming. What do you think?

First point, if you ban a player for having a high ping or being a ragequitter the first time, you would not ban him the second time and third time? That's like saying I arrest you for breaking into my house the first time, I will not arrest you for breaking into my house again...So doesn't that mean that player will be banned forever from any games you host? I guess he could try different hosts, but wouldn't they do the same? I mean, most hosts prefer low-ping, non-ragequitter players correct? Second point, if there's a ban option the lobby, I think some bad-mannered players will abuse that option and banning people who they think is too good or too bad or having opinions they disagree with. Third, I don't think rejoining a game is spamming. And I think you are being lazy, kicking a player out of the lobby is not frustrating at all.

we found one of those people the guys who dont like anything

dude it is a great idea i agree with it but there should also be a option for perminant ban like if u get kicked from a game and baned in lobby like with in 3 days then u would get put in that dudes personal one and banned from playing in his matches

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Quoting windtotem,

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Before the flaming starts, hear me out. I've played numerous games where i would kick a player for a high ping or for being a ragequitter in a previous game, and said player would rejoin constantly forcing me to kick him/her again. This is frustrating. So i want to start a petition to have a ban option in lobby. This option would disallow the player from rejoining that lobby until the game was finished, and then could rejoing the hosts game once he makes a new one, unless he is banned again of course.

This way people wouldnt be banned forever, and it would disallow spamming. What do you think?

First point, if you ban a player for having a high ping or being a ragequitter the first time, you would not ban him the second time and third time? That's like saying I arrest you for breaking into my house the first time, I will not arrest you for breaking into my house again...So doesn't that mean that player will be banned forever from any games you host? I guess he could try different hosts, but wouldn't they do the same? I mean, most hosts prefer low-ping, non-ragequitter players correct? Second point, if there's a ban option the lobby, I think some bad-mannered players will abuse that option and banning people who they think is too good or too bad or having opinions they disagree with. Third, I don't think rejoining a game is spamming. And I think you are being lazy, kicking a player out of the lobby is not frustrating at all.

First point, If there is a ban option, i dont have to keep kicking him over and over and over again, this also means if i want a friend to join i dont have to deal with this person joining and kicking him to get my friend in, i could just ban him and be done with it.

Also, if you ban someone, there is usually a good reason attatched to it like they ragequit or have a very high ping. If that's not reason enough to have a temp ban option then i dont know what is. Dont tell me you wouldn't temp ban someone from the lobbies you create so that you and the rest of the people can have a good time. It's a matter of the majority winning based on the fact that everyone is allowed to have fun and if one person is ruining it, they should be banned.

Also, saying im lazy because i have to keep re-kicking someone is probabaly the most close minded thing i've ever heard, why not make my life and everyones life simpler and just ban him to let someone else join instead of having this player spam a slot that a potentially "good" player can have. Good in the sense that they dont lag/ragequit.

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Quoting Busdude,

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There should some sort of in-game list function, where you can add as many players as you want and those players won't be able to enter any game you host (unless you remove them from the list), and if they enter a game in which someone else is hosting in which you're in, you get an alert message.

You should also be able to attach a comment to every name, so you can remember why you put them on the list, like shit sim speed/ ragequit after first blood/ plays terribly etc.

That's an awesome idea and should this option be included in the game, the features you mentioned ashould be added as well.

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/signed as far as temporary bans go.

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TheScottishAlien

Join Date 04/2009

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however it might be an idea to have a system where the banned person gets a warning email or something so they know they did something wrong... and that they need ot improve

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/agree

Had a guy rejoining my game over and over and over today no matter how many times we kicked him. See the pic below for why we kicked him.

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I agree, constantly re-joining is annoying. But I have two issues with this.

1/ Does the person being kicked know why he's being kicked? Do you explain or just kick?

2/ I joined a match, and before it began I realised my ping was high. So I offered to leave the list, but a few other players asked me not to. So again, before the match had even begun I offered once more to leave. Instead of a response, I was kicked.

If you're going to kick, give a reason and don't be offensive. I wouldn't have minded being asked to leave...I had offered. But to be kicked? C'mon!

BTW, Dawn of War II has this same problem.

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Double-post. Impulse had a glitch...soz.

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It would be nice, I had to write the names of a few people on a little piece of paper so I could remember not to play with them. That's pretty lame IMO, but totally nessisary. Just last night one them tried to get in a game of mine, luckily I remembered their name. I asked them in chat to leave or join the other team, they ignored my request. So I kicked em. Luckily someone else got in the game and we had a great match.

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I don't have the patience to type out an explanation of how Euros joining AU/NZ games are going to lag things up. You're not going to get a kick reason from many hosts simply because they have to kick a large number of people before the lobby is full of people with workable connections, and to type out to each and every one of them why they're being kicked would waste everyone's time.

If you have high ping to someone just leave, don't offer or bother with pleasantries, its easier if you just find another game.

I just want to play, without lag, and have fun, and by having a tempban option like the one above I can do this without having to rekick the same poeple over and over. (What do you know? Italy still isn't close to Australia! I could ahve sworn it moved closer in the 5 seconds between you being kicked and rejoining...)

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whoppin i play with aussies namely my cousins and there is zero lag man you are one of those people who say that everyone who is musilm is a terrorist

and do you know what i really think is funny that heilter said the exact same thing about the jews

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temp ban only sounds good, but I really doubt we'll ever see something like this in game.

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si1foo, I never understand your posts, but here's an attempt. Ping a Euro server from Australia, it will be well over 350 in 90% of cases. 350 is the stated net_lag value for this game, so I use that as my cutoff when selecting people to play with. I think your definition of "zero lag" is different to mine.

I don't hate Eurpoean people, but the simple fact is that we can't connect to each other withut suffering latency issues, so I choose not to play with them, and most of the time they choose not to play with me, which is good for both of us because otherwwise it will lag. This is somewhat different to genocide.

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i play with my friend mark who moved to perth and my cousins who live on the edge of sydney and i get arround 300 ping too them and so far no one has lagged out

ohh and i like in the uk so i am pretty much the oppersite side of the world

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Great, so you can play from the other side of the world, I haven't had that experience in any online game, from TF2 to Demigod. Suffice to say my results vary from yours. I am also yet to have anyone from that far away join my lobby with less than 400 ping.

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then it must be your internet speed i have 20 mbit at the moment and my cousins have the same

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Having a locally stored banlist would be a great idea. Person tries to join a lobby, host computer checks the name against a list, its on the list, connection canceled. Simple, easy and something SD could do themselves.

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Quoting woppin,

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I don't have the patience to type out an explanation of how Euros joining AU/NZ games are going to lag things up. You're not going to get a kick reason from many hosts simply because they have to kick a large number of people before the lobby is full of people with workable connections, and to type out to each and every one of them why they're being kicked would waste everyone's time.

If you have high ping to someone just leave, don't offer or bother with pleasantries, its easier if you just find another game.

I just want to play, without lag, and have fun, and by having a tempban option like the one above I can do this without having to rekick the same poeple over and over. (What do you know? Italy still isn't close to Australia! I could ahve sworn it moved closer in the 5 seconds between you being kicked and rejoining...)

Don't know if you were referring to me mate, but I am an Aussie, and I'm sick of being Aussie-bashed. Offering to leave a game, ie "being pleasant", is what good gaming is all about. If I have the time to make that offer, and other players have the time to respond, then there is no reason for a kick with no explanation. That's just plain bad manners, and bad gaming. Poor form, sir, very poor!

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