i've just suicided myself playing UB, but i think it's impossible to time that correctly and deny them xp and gold..it's a matter of luck in my opinion..

I guess kerzain is saying that no kill is garunteed until you've received the gold.

I reckon a good case should be made for assisted suicides though

That's actually a very good idea.

Yeah every time I get into a situation when playing Beast where it is very clear I will die, I click on ooze, you never know hehe. But yeah, something should be done, this adds luck to the game.

i don't think they should change ooze, it's actually nice, like Pudge in Dota if anyone of you ever played that even more, it would be even nicer if a team-mate could kill you when you are really low on health and thus deny the enemy XP and gold

This.  I've been going ooze a lot and sometimes I get suicides.  Given how much gold is involved for a kill, this is kind of bad design.  The other player can do most of the work, but because of some random luck in auto attack timing, he gets no gold for his trouble.  It should at the very least give assist gold to the guy who was hitting you.  The opponent took a risk in trying to kill you, for him to succeed and then not get any because of bad luck in the timing of his attacks is just stupid.

I wonder if the ooze deactivate thing hasn't been happening to me, or has resulted in me turning it back on when I want it off and getting suicides.  They should just fix it so you can't turn it back on if you're below that health rather than screwing around with the suicided system to give kill/assist gold to the opponents who made it happen.

If you kill yourself, every person on the other team should get gold.

Problem solved.

STill get an assist on the kill would solve it. And ppl doing that on purpose are sore losers.

I remember an old game (enemy territory) where people would do it all the time, even have a button bound to it, just so you wouldn't get the points for it. I cannot express in words how lame I think that is, but sadly no one cares, they only want to be first in rank.

Well, geting gold for "assisting" in suicide makes sense, but i still don't think ooze should be changed, even if it is a luck triggerd factor, it should stay in the game, take it as a unique ability of the UB (altough Erebus's potion cand do that too, so it;s not exactly unique) . As long as ooze works that way it is now, that means dealing damage to yourself, it should also be able to kill you..luck is a factor in other aspects of this game also, take "critical hit" for example..

There's no such thing as an accident. Wwhy are you so low on health that a poisoned potion will kill you ? Right, that's because the other team did that to you so they deserve the gold for the kill.