Wait what, so mechanics that punish good players are good? How? If you really want something like that, make it so that you can turn it on/off in custom games, but otherwise it's a horrible idea.

If both teams are of equal skill and actually coordinate, neither is going to get a lot of kills, if any, for a long time.

Really, a few early kills don't matter nearly as much as people say it does. Usually it just tells that there's a player in the other team who isn't all that good, since dying early is actually pretty hard if you know what you're doing.

Well tbh, it won't make much difference in a game like that since it's basically 4vs3, and even with your system the good team would get a very big gold advantage in addition to the one they already have. And on that second point, I don't see why you'd want mechanics that just make games longer even though they've been decided a long time ago. I'd rather just finnish it quickly and go play a new game.

So it's not a 'terrible' idea, but it'd just drag the games needlesly when you could just use the time it'd take to finnish your current game to play a new a game that isn't already decided.

Fact is, the early game is very important in any resource-based competition (be it Starcraft or whatever), and as soon as one team gets the ball rolling, it will work in their favour. Trying to balance the game with regards to unskilled players (playing with skilled ones) or AI is pretty dumb, since it's not what the game should be about, or at least nothing that can be taken into consideration without affecting legit same-level play.

Those ragequitters should drop the notion that they should be able to run anywhere they want on the map without risking the entire game. Because they do, and you have to play with that in mind. Since they appearently dropped knowing this, I'm confused why people won't adjust their gameplay accordingly and play more defensively early on.

If the overall meta-game in Demigod subsequently devolves into a turtling zerg-fest because of this, where every DG team constantly has to stick together behind towers to even have a chance of winning, and every match in decided when the first DG dies, then so be it. That's when the devs should reconsider if this is what their original vision looked like.

Even so, no matter how much you nerf certain aspects of the game, there will always be players so skilled that killing the first DG still gives them an advantage.

I personally think that gold from killing demigods should be lowered (a bit), but the main issue is the gold assist distribution. For instance, if you kill a DG, the person who did the last hit will get the full cash cow, while potentially all the other players who tapped the dead DG prior to death will get half of that amount. Some math:

Case 1: 2 players gang up on one DG = $ (killing blow) + 0.5 * $ (assist) = 1.5 * $ (total)

Case 2: 5 players gang up on one DG = $ (killing blow) + 0.5 (assist ratio) * 4 (number of assisters) * $ = 3 * $

Twice the gold is handed out for killing the same demigod to the opposing team (another reason to always "hunt in packs"). Cash should be distributed in a different manner. I know that %damage dealed would mean %gold gained but this is hard to implement with heals/shields and other factors.

Maybe something in the whereabouts of:

$ = total cash gained from killing demigod (according to level)

Demigod dealing the killing blow = 0.33 * $

A demigod who dealt damage (includes killing blow dealer) = (0.66 * $) / NumOfDamageDealers

That way, for 900 gold bounty for killing a demigod by 3 players you would get:

Damage dealer = (0.66 * 900) / 3 = 200 per demigod

Killing blow will receive an extra 300 cash. Just an idea

Well that's true, but personally I wouldn't go near if I saw three DG's on a flag, I'd just harass them just outside their range. Plus if all three of the four are in the same place, that makes it pretty easy for the your team to take control of the map, which will probably just end up hurting the would-be gankers. So imo if they can get all their nukes on you you've already screwed up somewhere. And even if they can get them all to hit you, at lvl 1 they're not enough to kill any dg, even though you'll be left with very little health (in which case healing potions/universal gadget can save your ass).

But sure it is possible to get early kills even if both teams know what they're doing, but one early kill will hardly change the course of the whole game, and getting a second kill will be a lot harder since the guy they killed (and his team) will be on his toes now.

Both good points.

But I think that the problem is not in fact the gold gained from Demi kills, but rather the skill level differentiation between players. Perhaps we should be worried less about how much a free 'noob' kill warrants, and more on making sure the players are all on the same level? Matchmaking systems are key. Right now, we need to improve ours.

Just stop trying to be Rambo. The game is fine without noobs.

/this

Gold per kill is fine, one kill mean nothing.

If a team stack a lot more kills the other team is inferior, but, since the game is so awesome, you can still pull it off if you ouplay them with flags and portals

You have a minimap, you know. "Hey, four enemy demis are missing! That sounds like a -gank-!."

I don't think it would "punish" good players.

Some games use similar pratices to dissuade players from using very obvious advantages to expliot easy kills. WoW as one example has (or had) dimishing returns on honor gained from kills or elimated honor gained completely if the oposing player was a low enough lvl.

How much skill does it take for a good player to kill an AI opponent that basicly suicides itself into other players half the time? Or to kill a players 10 lvls below him/her? If the lvl diff is high enough you can pretty much butcher someone even if they are standing on thier regen crystal (the brothers map is a good example).

Granted noobish players are going to get beat badly and everyone needs to learn eventualy, but in a 4v4 the other players will have a hard enough time trying to pick up the slack let alone have to deal the other team having a cash cow advantage.

Its just a sugestion anyways