Heck...I'd settle for any game where everyone didn't drop while the game is loading.

If I wanted to play against 2 AI's i'd just play single player.

What I have experience today/yesterday was pretty much this.

Today nothign but Crucible with 2 vs 2 and occasionally pantheon attempted bigger matchups, but the 'playerlog' was like 70-80 percent prefilled with bots. Those games were so rarely trying to launch, vs Crucible ones as the percentage of Crucibles even launching, because one person quit during matchup or couldnt connect.

None of my non-Crucible games launced during the whole evening of trying.

I would confirm on my part that NONE games ive was setup during the evening that happened or really were attempted were nothing but 2vs2's with the rare occasion of adding bots to the mix.

It looks like devs are trying to circumvent badly working networking structure/whatnot by using minimal number of RL players. As it seems the percentage of plaeyrbase really failing to connect, nat problems and frankly dev server problems making the games impossible to launch as more you got people in a game higher the chance seems to be that someone drops or breaks and thus the whole thing wont even launch.

Yeah; I'm just jealous that you could get into a Pantheon game at all...

Pretty sure when this happens it's not that everyone else dropped.  It's you who dropped.  Everyone else is probably still playing with you replaced with a bot.  At least that's my experience having been on both sides of the fence.

Hmm I've got 4v4 and 5v5 today, but they're quite pointless when everybody else in the game is an AI, though I imagine it's worse if the other team has more players than you and they'll just farm the AI. So I'm happy with a 2v2 that has players only.

Crucible is a terrible map - I wouldn't even mind playing the 2v2s so much if a different map was actually played.

I for one, wouldn't mind waiting an extra minute to get more players going for a 3v3 / 4v4, or whatever.  Enough with the 2v2s!

My second day where I got some good games off. But they were all 2v2 (humans) + AI.

I am growing suspicious again.

Hi guys,

Just some quick info and then I'm heading out (hopefully for the weekend):

When you play a pantheon game, it's trying to pick players who have similar skill levels. The problem is, now that enough people have skill ratings, the system is being too picky on who it puts into games. So you end up with fewer people being in the game.

Now, next week, the plan is to make it be less picky about that.  The other change next week is that if a player has an experience score of over 1100, AI Players won't be added to the game.