it doesn't really matter if the icon still shows up, as there is nothing the other player can do about the phased ship flying around in-system

nah i disagree. if i made them, i would make a cap ability for one, and in my mod, caps are super tough, and i would also make it a "tough" cruiser, and if you had, say 15 of them, waiting in a grav well, and sneaking behind the enemy lines, they could be pretty deadly

Can't the call to the icon be removed?

-Teal

Is it possible to make a "blank" mesh? What happens if you remove all but a single point from the modified mesh that is called?

-Teal

hmmmm....

Only if you remove it from the ship itself.

I think it would be enough to give the cloaking ship a tradeship icon onscreen (something small and usually ignored ), it can use a more normal icon in the Infocard.

  Haha, Hello Everyone, Guess What?  <Secret Smile>  It Works!!!!!!!!    Haha, i took the Advent AM Recharger mesh, which is a sphere, and i had already re-sized it down to make my version of the combat mines, with fatalattack ability as their payload, and i dropped it into NewBoerg's Resize Tool, and shrank it to a hundredth of its size, and took that and dropped it again into the resize tool and shrank that a hundredth of that size, total one thousandth its shrank size of the combat mine, which i believe was a third of the original, i think, i cant remember off the top of my head.

Anyway, i made a quick race, called them Unknown and dropped the invisible ship (the AM recharger with the minus1000.mesh) and put it in the playerunknown.entity and of course had to do the ai name and the player name from the player.entity into the string file.

But left the planetmodules, took all the ships out except the invisible ship and the fabricator and left the research in, because eventually im going to switch meshes for all the ships to make them all invisible.

Trick here is to give them no shields, very low hit points and normal guns, relatively quick for the first inviso ship, but all the others of course will stay at the same speed, but lowered hitpoints, no shields also.

Made the fragile and invisible, haha, they do have phaseouthull but that is only renewable every two minutes so they protect themselves with that, at least temporarily.

Once i have all the ships in i will release 1.0 version, but im still testing, haha.

Oh, i fired up the mod with the Unknown race, (based off the Advent) with their one little ship. I built it, and out it popped. Icon and all, it has a pulsing light from the am recharger mesh effect.    And i went to the menu and effects and turned off the icons, and guess what?   Haha, it was invisible!  well except for the pulsing light it was, haha. Anyway, im zipping it up now and anyone is welcome of course to download it off FileFront as soon as it finishes. I will post a link here. 

Boy do i love this Game!!!  Haha, it feels good to do stuff, you know?  Haha, and fun and im acting like a kid, but hey, im having a good time.  I have to remember i couldnt do any of this at all if the devs hadnt made this game, and i didnt hang out with all these cool people who get all these cool ideas!!!!!

Take care and see you on the forum!!

Keep Gaming and Keep Modding!!!!!

-Teal

so, i am a little lost, did you just make it a small mesh from the start? or was it a normal sized ship, then used cloak ability, then it switched to small mesh? i also thought, an easy way to remove the icon is to just turn the icon for trade ship into a single pixel (if possible) i mean, who really bothers with them? why see them? they are autonomous anyway. i acutally have an idea now, of what you are doing, but how do you switch meshes on the fly? what is the code for it? cause i would like to take a stab at this.

edit: where do I find the icon in the game folder? lol

Actually, i had resized the AM recharger before, in my StarFall mod, to make a makeshift combat mine. It is a sphere, which i thought would be a good shape you know, when its small its hard to see, a single dot or something, instead of a ship with like length and wings and all. So i took the combat mine mesh and shrank it.  

Now its not even a dot, you cant even see it.

As to why i left the icons in, well, its a good thing for people who want to see their ships, even invisible ships. And for those that dont all they have to do, is turn off icons.    Everybody is happy!!  Im Happy too!!!  

Just finished uploading it, it has only one ship now for the Unknown race, they are they only one's with the invisible ship.

And am working on the other ships now, and Hope to finish tonight or tomorrow.    Then the Unknown race will have all ships and a full tech tree and invisible ships, all of them, haha. 

Downside to playing them is going to be that they are fragile, (no shields, low hullpoints) but they will be cheap, sorta invisible Zerg for Sins!!!  

Try it out and let me know what you think?  KK?

-Teal

Oh, you are one of the co-creator's ok?    Isn't that Great!!!!  

-T

Icons are listed at the top of the entity file, 

like:

hudIcon "HUDICON_CAPITALSHIP_PSICARRIER"

smallHudIcon "HUDICONSMALL_CAPITALSHIP_PSICARRIER"

infoCardIcon "INFOCARDICON_CAPITALSHIP_PSICARRIER"

minZoomDistanceMult 1.000000

for Capitals and Frigates,    

-Teal

Ok i understand that it is somewhere in here, but i have questions then:

for instance, can i switch this to "ability" or something? criteriaType "Research"

also, when i use this in this way, how would i code this:
meshNameIncreasedEffectName "HangarGetupgrade"
meshNameDecreasedEffectName "HangarLosegrade"

leave it blank like the other files?

also i meant the actual brush icon. i looked in textures and the like in the original game folder but i cannot find the icons

If the Devs dont "Make" the cloak, could they "Show us how?"

-Teal