People enjoy games, well ok not everyone...but at the same time, I do not like coming here and seeing post after post about politics, how we are destroying ourselves, so on and so forth. I do not have my head in the sand either, I just choose not to voice my opinion on volatile issues.  As long as I have been a member here, and it was and still is my first home, I have never felt as comfortable, as accepted in the forums as I have the last couple of weeks.

    And that's my story and I'm sticking to it!!

Quote........(which is why I keep hoping Johnny Depp will open the borders of his island in the Caribbean for immigration)........Unquote.

Been there and worked there with Disney............Fun place.........The Flying Dutchman is anchored there permanently......but it's Disney's private place away from the rest of the world   

Since I value peace, I am not going to take sides in Palestinian/Israeli conflict.  It's not my war.  I don't have any blood vested in the conflict.  Taking a side now would be like taking sides in somebody else's domestic dispute.  It's a needless risk for me to take.  

This much I WILL say.  I dislike what Islam does to women.  I was angry at the murder of Theo Van Gogh, and I got even MORE angry when I read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's book, "Infidel" (Hirsi Ali had been the reason Van Gogh filmed the movie "Submission" which what enraged the Moroccan who murdered him to engage in that act).  IMO all religions are, on some level at least, toxic, and Islam is particularly violatile.  However, I don't think fueling the fires of anger will every bring peace to anyone.

I want to lead by example, and that example is to not get played by the emotionalism of pictures and one-sided stories, but to remain calm, deal with the crap I already have on my own plate, and let the rest of the world take care of itself.

I applaud this...except that I believe that if some want organized religion, they can have it. Just so long as it stops short of the end of my nose.

The only problem being that the UN is not a democratic organization....there is one Jewish state, and 22 Moslem ones...that would yield justice? Starkers, current human nature is the problem:

"I can win." is the essence of the problem. The "ary fairy" remark is not right, and I think you're just "tongue in cheek"-ing it. I hope so, anyway.

I love ya anyway, bro.

I'm well aware of the suffering too k10w3, happens on both sides... the difference is there aren't militia's of rocket toting, hooded thugs on the other side, from what I see, one side is civilized, one is far from it.

Look at some pro Isreal rally photos... distinct difference.

It amazes me that some people can look at something so obviously tilted and equivicate it somehow.

Heres the news, were in for a long hard fight to the death with islamic radicalism, the kind I spoke of in the original post. If you, or anyone else wants to try reason with them, accomodate them, then good luck to you.. you can not reason with evil. you cannot accomodate someone who's only wish in life is to kill themselves while killing as many innocents as they can in the process.

So when it's on your doorstep, when the bombs filled with nails and ball bearings are going off at the mall where your children hang out...don't come crying to me.

Yep, it was all pretty much tongue in cheek stuff with regard to the UN... I am a pacifist and do not advocate the killing of anyone for any reason, so it was a way of venting my anger and frustration at the needless violence going on in the World  However, I refer not to the Israeli - Palestinian conflict specifically... there is needless killing going on in Zimbawe, Afghanistan, Iraq, Darfur and other parts of the World, all in the name of politics and/or religion, and that sickens me bacause the innocent always suffer most.

The better solution to a firing squad would be for their water supplies to be contaminasted with happy pills so they all throw down their rockets and guns... or alternatively put in sleeping pills so that while they're asleep we can go in and remove all their weapons.

You are right, and I think that I alluded to the fact it is human nature that is responsible for the atrocities being committed in the name of politics and religion throughout the World, which is a sad indictment against those supposedly at the top of the food chain/pecking order.  Yes, politics and religion have a lot to answer for, but government and religious groups are made up of people, and until mankind becomes truly pacifist the political and religious killing will continue.

Peace and love to you too, Doc.... and Ed, and everyone here at WC.

Oh heck, peace and joy to the World.

No critical thinking: We're taught "There's no such thing as black or white."

Nonsense. Hamas is trying to take Israeli lives and Israel itself. Israel is saying, "Enough is enough. We are taking you out of the equation: You deny our right to exist in peace with your rockets and maniac bombers? Well, the answer is no more Hamas: Surrender or die."

And that's just fine with me. No sleep lost over cowards who shield themselves with the bodies of women and children.

The Israeli soldier does the exact opposite, like real men everywhere and everywhen. We stand BETWEEN our families and war's desolation: Not BEHIND our families putting them in harm's way.

Rest my case.

Spot on! And that's why Bush f**ked up big time when he decided to invade Iraq.  First off, he didn't understand Iraqi demographics or the volatile nature of the religious and cultural differences within the populace... hence the anarchy and rise in terrorist activities since the invasion.  I applaud what President Talibani and Prime Minister Maliki are trying to do in uniting the Iraqi people, but sadly, when the US withdraws, Iraq will erupt in civil war and another 'Saddam' will rise to power.

Iraq needed to resolve its own issues and evolve in its own way, without outside intervention... and hopefully, those who all think they are the World's policemen will learn from that and stay out of the Israeli Palestinian conflict.  These two peoples need to sort this thing out for themselves... because an enforced peace through intervention would only be an artificial peace that would not last once the occupational forces withdrew.

We may not agree with the violence, politics or religious beliefs in the World's trouble spots, but that does not give us the right to invade, set up occupational forces and ram 'so-called' democracy down their throats.  It serves only to build resentment and to exacerbate the problem through those who 'patriotically' refuse to accept it and fight back with whatever means they can... which is why George Bush is a total mug for invading Iraq.  He opened a bloodier can of worms nobody knows how to close.

Then u should know, if you have lived it, why i am saying, what I am.

I just think there has got to be another way of dispatching killers besides killing them first.  Obviously, killing them only turns them into martyrs, which only spurs on more killing.  Starkers is right...we need to start deploying chemical weapons of a different type (i.e., "Happy pills").  

That is all I have to say