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Reply #426 August 1, 2008 8:57:09 PM
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Oops the website for their looks:

There are more ships on this page. Make the ones you'd like.Tholians

Those new Geckodon ships you made are you going to update the ships you have on the Library with the new ones?
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Reply #427 August 1, 2008 9:00:26 PM
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Those new Geckodon ships you made are you going to update the ships you have on the Library with the new ones?


no
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Reply #428 August 1, 2008 9:05:05 PM
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Will the Geckodons be using their tech tree?


The mod will have custom weapons for the races. Pretty much everyone had phasors but not every one had disruptors or Torpedos.

When I start on tech trees I will respect the set up of your tech tree but I'll have to modify the weapons they can research. When I'm ready I'll give you a list of choices for you to pick.
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Reply #429 August 1, 2008 9:06:39 PM
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Not to be rude but can you give a link to a site that give more info on the names oh and I just made an Arachnid,

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Reply #430 August 1, 2008 9:43:37 PM
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Click on Starship name registry on the bottom:

Star Fleet Universe Player Resources
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Reply #431 August 1, 2008 9:57:53 PM
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Well the game developers make it clear that they break off of the normal Star Trek timeline. But this I do know this. Its based off of the original series star trek so its in the 23rd Century. According to their timeline though the General War which this mod is modeled off on takes place 170 years after Human and Vulcans meet.2063 the date Zefram Cochrane made his warp flight and met the Vulcans + 170 years would be 2233 (23rd Century). Its implied that events of Federation and Empire happen before the events of Kirk and the original series. Since that was in the later 23rd Century the timeline works out pretty well.


Actually that's not right because we don't meet the Gorn until the Series, in fact since they (Starfleet Games) don't have the rights to Kirk and the Enterprise the first meeting between the Federation and Gorns is referred to as a event in which two brash captains fired first and asked questions later and was an embarrassment for both sides which quickly settled their difference in the face of a common enemy, IE the Romulans. If I am not mistaken the war takes place after the series and technically before Star Trek I but again the two time lines go there separate ways.
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Reply #432 August 1, 2008 9:58:31 PM
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Click on Starship name registry on the bottom:Star Fleet Universe Player Resources


Just post some pictures of the shps withtheir names so that my ADHD infected brain can undestand.
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Reply #433 August 1, 2008 10:21:19 PM
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Here are two more Tholian ships


I'll email these ones to you.
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Reply #434 August 2, 2008 8:23:10 AM
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Actually that's not right because we don't meet the Gorn until the Series, in fact since they (Starfleet Games) don't have the rights to Kirk and the Enterprise the first meeting between the Federation and Gorns is referred to as a event in which two brash captains fired first and asked questions later and was an embarrassment for both sides which quickly settled their difference in the face of a common enemy, IE the Romulans. If I am not mistaken the war takes place after the series and technically before Star Trek I but again the two time lines go there separate ways.


As I said, different timelines. But by your own thinking you can't put Federation and Empire after the series and before Star Trek Motion Picture because Carrol Marcus in Star Trek 2 makes the comment that "Star Fleet has kept the peace for over 100 years."

I do know that the USS Enterprise(1701) is part of the Federation and Empire/Star Fleet Battles game. Its even in the Ship Name Registry I put a link to a couple of replies ago.

The important thing is what century? Both the show/movies and game place this at the 23rd Century which works for me since there level of technology matches.

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Reply #435 August 2, 2008 9:37:04 AM
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The important thing is what century? Both the show/movies and game place this at the 23rd Century which works for me since there level of technology matches.


well how about this sheens the timeline is the same as the show but not acurate with the time line with the TOS then its an altenet reality.
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Reply #436 August 2, 2008 11:52:21 AM
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Hehehehehhe: You could make it the Evil Federation from the other reality time line.
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Reply #437 August 2, 2008 11:53:46 AM
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Ronin: I need to ask. What is the total number and mix of ships you need made or the Carnivon's as a minor race? Would it be the same mix as a playable race?
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Reply #438 August 2, 2008 12:44:52 PM
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Hehehehehhe: You could make it the Evil Federation from the other reality time line.


Only time I enjoyed the mirror universe storyline was in the 2 part episode of Enterprise.

Ronin: I need to ask. What is the total number and mix of ships you need made or the Carnivon's as a minor race? Would it be the same mix as a playable race?


Minimum of one hull design for each hull type.

As for the Cargo hulls we need 2 (constructor and freighter)
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Reply #439 August 2, 2008 12:47:22 PM
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Actually that's not right because we don't meet the Gorn until the Series, in fact since they (Starfleet Games) don't have the rights to Kirk and the Enterprise the first meeting between the Federation and Gorns is referred to as a event in which two brash captains fired first and asked questions later and was an embarrassment for both sides which quickly settled their difference in the face of a common enemy, IE the Romulans. If I am not mistaken the war takes place after the series and technically before Star Trek I but again the two time lines go there separate ways.As I said, different timelines. But by your own thinking you can't put Federation and Empire after the series and before Star Trek Motion Picture because Carrol Marcus in Star Trek 2 makes the comment that "Star Fleet has kept the peace for over 100 years."I do know that the USS Enterprise(1701) is part of the Federation and Empire/Star Fleet Battles game. Its even in the Ship Name Registry I put a link to a couple of replies ago.The important thing is what century? Both the show/movies and game place this at the 23rd Century which works for me since there level of technology matches.


Your right the time isn't really all that important. Though you know how hard it is to tell time with Star trek, they add stuff on and just try to make it work, like "enterprise". The Starfleet Universe's history was created in the early 80's before the next generation and Star trek I came out, hence the smooth head Klingons and so on. So their history is most likely going to collide with the established history now, like no Archer.

I do know that the Starfleet games have a limited license, which does not allow them to use the Enterprise or Kirk, which kind of sucks. Thankfully we don't have such a limitation. Though I think that was a positive for them since the game focuses on the Whole fleet not just one ship, even if it is the greatest in the Galaxy. And it allowed them to develop histories of other ships such as the Republic, MacArthur, and so on.
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Reply #440 August 2, 2008 2:59:50 PM
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Listen AFronin I'm gonna email the rest of the ships to you along with the ship styles so you'll porbaly have to finish the Tholians for me, also I found this portrait that you could use for the Tholians,
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Reply #441 August 2, 2008 4:13:51 PM
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Only time I enjoyed the mirror universe storyline was in the 2 part episode of Enterprise.


ya that was a good one but i do wish Voyager had some but owell,
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Reply #442 August 2, 2008 4:54:59 PM
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I know the Lyrans are behind schedule but life gets in the way you know. They will be uploaded on Tuesday at the latest.

Then I'll finish up the ship requests people have and do the expansion pack.

Then I'll take some of sethpenguin's Tholians and put them with my ideas to put them together.

Almost there.
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Reply #443 August 2, 2008 5:02:46 PM
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so wich ones do we need left
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Reply #444 August 2, 2008 7:36:54 PM
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I’m a long time fan of Star Fleet Battles, which I started playing back in the first release in the early 1980s. I mainly played the Kzinti, but love the Feds, too.

The GC2 ship designer is great fun. I was inspired to create a few ships based (loosely) on SFB. I see you have the Feds ironed out. Here are a few images of the ships I’ve used in ToA.


Fed DW (small hull) – basic defender


Heavy Destroyer (HDD), after Birth of the Federation (small hull) – fast responder


Heavy Cruiser (CA) (medium hull) – front line warship


Heavy Battle Cruiser (BCH) (medium hull) – flagship, best armor, weapons, engines


Dreadnaught (DN) (large hull) – flagship, planetary assault

Cheers!
Hydro

P.S. - I'm using Imageshack and have noticed the text is weak. Any suggestions on making the image clearer?

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Reply #445 August 2, 2008 8:41:13 PM
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you don't need to do anything. You click the yellow bar above to see the full picture. But I do use photobucket.com

Looks great. You gave me a few ideas too
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Reply #446 August 3, 2008 3:45:06 PM
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AF, i just eMailed the 8 "newly modified" Logos as you requested this morning!
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Reply #447 August 3, 2008 3:59:43 PM
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Then I'll take some of sethpenguin's Tholians and put them with my ideas to put them together.

Which ships?
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Reply #448 August 3, 2008 4:16:17 PM
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AF, i just eMailed the 8 "newly modified" Logos as you requested this morning!


Got them thanks.

Then I'll take some of sethpenguin's Tholians and put them with my ideas to put them together.Which ships?


I'm going to meld your ideas with mine. In fact your Furious helped me out with a problem I had.
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Reply #449 August 3, 2008 4:24:19 PM
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I'm going to meld your ideas with mine. In fact your Furious helped me out with a problem I had.


Ok then, and BTW think I just came with a minor race, thse Martians from War of the Worlds.
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Reply #450 August 3, 2008 4:26:40 PM
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Original War of the Worlds or the Steven Spielburg version?
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