well read in another thread that its one mod at a time sooooo repaired the files with originals and tried to just use the hangar mod... still wont work... i think i'll reinstall and do the hangar mod first and see if i can get it to work...

Just make another folder with your hangar mod.

Make a folder called Hangar whatever. Copy all the relevant folders from your game directory into that folder (GameInfo only, I'm guessing). Then copy over the hangar files to that folder too. The new ones should overwrite the 'base' ones. Then you can enable the mod.

Yeah, either i don't understand those instructions... or i didn't get it right from what you want me to do... either way i tried a couple things... starting first with what you described in-full; first...... then i tried some other stuff that was similar to what you said but none of the three things i tried fixed it...

I Don't understand why it Would work... and i didn't do Anything to the game after it worked.... and i load the game up 15 minutes later and it Doesn't work? what changed because I Didn't change anything?

So, it worked, you close the game, you opened the game, you RE-ENABLED the mod and then tried it? Closing the game will remove any mod activated, unless you tick the 'Load Mod on Startup' box.

If you did that and it didn't work, then you really need to start posting more screenshots. Descriptions can only give us so much to work with, something inconsequential to you may be the one thing that is messing everything up and we would see straight away.

So, I ask you to post a screenshot of:
- The inside of the mod folder you are trying to activate (with address bar visible)
- The number of files in each of the folders in the mod folder you are trying to activate

And possibly:
- The insides of every folder in the mod folder you are trying to activate


Cut and crop as much as you like to get the pictures smaller if you want, but show us this and we may be able to help you further.

And yes, I am impressed you've stayed on this problem for so long. I admire you will to persevere.

As far as I know it's only textures and such.. I don't think we'll see it with GameInfo because the Textures folder is just a collection of unrelated graphics/images, but the GameInfo has lots of internal dependencies. So, I don't know

Well, Textures is a pretty major step.. at least GameInfo/Window folders are small, having to have a 1gb folder in each mod that modifies a single .tga is meh

wow they changed fraps from what it used to be... i can only record 30 second clips at a time.... so you folks may have ot click through several videos for the game videos...

also, it wont record while at the desktop, which is weird because i used to be able to do that... like i said maybe they changed it or i used to own the full version...

I'll work on compiling all the info your asking for and get a nice post together. Thanks again for all the help.

OK here goes....











this last one is my desktop with my shortcuts to all the folders that i am working with ... one thing that occurred to me is that somehow working through the shortcuts could be causing the problem? any idea about if that's possible or not.



please let me know if i missed anything you are looking for and if i need to take more screen shots of anything else...

-v- im going to post the fraps 30 second clips of me trying to activate the mods in game and show that they are actually Not active in game...

as soon as the wife gets her new debit card in the mail I'll probably be buying the new version of fraps so i can get the full length video in-game... erks me they changed it.. it USED to be 20 bucks, now i remember, i had the full version on my old computer... i should find out what my information was that i used there... maybe i can recover the program...

EDIT: im not going to mess with the fraps video for now because the entire 30 second limit really pisses me off, i'm trying to recover my old file from the other computer and i sent the fraps people an email so hopefully they will get back with me so i dont have to pay 40 freeken dollars for the program. sigh.

Ok, that is weird. Everything seems above board, except one thing. In the GameInfo for the mod, you have 895 files. In the GameInfo for the main directory, you have 896. That means there is one less file in the Mod'd folder. This maybe part of the mod, but I doubt it, as I'm pretty sure all mods either change(same number as main directory), or add(higher number than main directory) files, rather than remove.

The one thing to do really, is either find out which file is missing, or, a quicker way, copy all the files in GameInfo from your main directory into the mod's GameInfo folder, and when asked to replace, click 'No' on all(895) of them. One file should be new, so you won't be asked to replace it.

A couple of questions that you may or may not have asked already, but just for clarity, and for me;
- Did you create any of the Folders manually at anytime? (Right clicking, New... -> Folder)
- Is your username user?

Good luck, I'll be back tomorrow lunch (GMT), if you're still stuck, or maybe someone else can help you 'til then.

Edit: @ Carbon016; No, he has done that correctly, check the dates on the files in the main directory's GameInfo folder.

to #1 i did create the folders manually at one point right when i tried figuring this out and couldn't find the path, because they were hidden. Later i erased this pathway.

to #2, my user name is Andy as you will see in the following picture, but the pathway doesn't go through that user name and that user name doesn't appear in the folder specified as described it should. *confused*

there is NO "andy" under documents and settings..... the path you folks are giving me is under "user" and i dont know why.!.