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Adding more than 5 Capitals?

February 16, 2008 12:20:41 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums
Hello there, another question from a hapless modding noob.

Now that I've finally got the game to work without crashing, I've been playing around with trying to add new ships. I thought I'd try to add a 6th Battleship to build. I've successfully added the ship, but its kicked the Dreanought off the list instead of putting the icon for it on the bottom row of construction boxes. Confused I edited the Frigate shipyard, and added a 7th Frigate, and that happily added it to the bottom row of construction boxes no fuss.

Does the game limit you to 5 Capitals or am I missing a parameter somewhere to send ships to the bottom row of the construction box?
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Reply #1 February 16, 2008 12:28:06 PM
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Just to show you what I did:

capitalShipInfo
Page:0
count 6
entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHBATTLESHIP"
entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHBATTLESHIP2"
entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHCARRIER"
entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHCOLONY"
entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHSUPPORT"
entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHSIEGE"

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Reply #2 February 16, 2008 12:34:53 PM
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As far as I know, nobody's figured out yet how to make the capital ship factory use the bottom row, so you can only have 5.
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Reply #3 February 16, 2008 12:39:58 PM
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Oh good, so its not just me being stupid then
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Reply #4 February 16, 2008 2:02:37 PM
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Might I suggest checking the frigate / capitol factories to see if those files have any relevent data lines? (As in a compare / contrast)
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Reply #5 February 16, 2008 7:18:41 PM
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I am having a similar issue with tryong to add a third fighter/bomber type. I believe that there may be some option that needs to be added to the "window" files to tell the game where to display the creation buttons. I have not had any luck as of yet.
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Reply #6 February 16, 2008 7:26:44 PM
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Has anyone tried adding enough frigates for the build icons to spill over to the next row? If they have and there was no problem, then it is likely we have a bug on our hands.
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Reply #7 February 16, 2008 9:21:47 PM
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yes I tried it with the cruiser type frigate and it was spilling over the next row. My guess is that IC opened 2 rows for frigate because they had 6 light frigates but created only 1 row for cap and fighter because they didn't needed more. On the player.entity there are interesting lines. Answer is probably in those management files

UserActionIconOpenModulePage0 "ACTIONICON_PLANET_OPENPLANETMODULEMANAGEMENT_ORBIT0"
UserActionIconOpenModulePage1 "ACTIONICON_PLANET_OPENPLANETMODULEMANAGEMENT_ORBIT1"
UserActionIconCloseModulePage0 "ACTIONICON_PLANET_CLOSEPLANETMODULEMANAGEMENT_ORBIT0"
UserActionIconCloseModulePage1 "ACTIONICON_PLANET_CLOSEPLANETMODULEMANAGEMENT_ORBIT1"
UserActionIconOpenPlanetCapitalShipManagement "ACTIONICON_PLANET_OPENCAPITALSHIPMANAGEMENTPSI"
UserActionIconClosePlanetCapitalShipManagement "ACTIONICON_PLANET_CLOSECAPITALSHIPMANAGEMENT"
UserActionIconOpenPlanetFrigateManagement0 "ACTIONICON_PLANET_OPENFRIGATEMANAGEMENTPSI0"
UserActionIconOpenPlanetFrigateManagement1 "ACTIONICON_PLANET_OPENFRIGATEMANAGEMENTPSI1"
UserActionIconClosePlanetFrigateManagement0 "ACTIONICON_PLANET_CLOSEFRIGATEMANAGEMENT0"
UserActionIconClosePlanetFrigateManagement1 "ACTIONICON_PLANET_CLOSEFRIGATEMANAGEMENT1"
UserActionIconOpenSquadManagement "ACTIONICON_CAPITALSHIP_OPENSQUADRONMANAGEMENT"
UserActionIconCloseSquadManagement "ACTIONICON_CAPITALSHIP_CLOSESQUADRONMANAGEMENT"
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Reply #8 February 16, 2008 9:40:30 PM
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Those look like the basic UI menu buttons though.
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Reply #9 February 17, 2008 8:38:58 AM
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Well if we can't add them yet, then I hope this is changed in the future. Seeing all those wasted empty boxes makes me sad =P

I'm going to keep playing around and trying though, will let you guys know if I find anything. Would appreciate the same if anyone else finds out.
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Reply #10 February 17, 2008 10:49:55 AM
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just tried playing around with the useractionicon lines. Trying to copy the way the frigates are done with the 0 and 1 results in the game hardlocking my computer when I try to enable the mod. Its too bad that this seems to be the sole issue for adding new cap ships, as Sins will recognize any new ship added, as shown if you remove an existing cap ship.
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Reply #11 February 17, 2008 11:17:24 AM
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Looked at a side by side comparison of the two Factories, and the only difference of conciquence (AKA: not hit points, build time, cost, etc.) is this line:

planetModuleRoleType "FRIGATEFACTORY" (or "CAPITALSHIPFACTORY")

I tried searching in the other files to see if these are defined anywhere, but again no dice.
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Reply #12 February 17, 2008 1:31:08 PM
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I saw that entry too and tried changing Capital to Frigate, but it seemed to have no obvious effect.
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Reply #13 February 18, 2008 5:20:28 AM
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Just to show you what I did:capitalShipInfo Page:0 count 6 entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHBATTLESHIP" entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHBATTLESHIP2" entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHCARRIER" entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHCOLONY" entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHSUPPORT" entityDefName "CAPITALSHIP_TECHSIEGE"
Where is this defined? edit: nvm, figured it out
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Reply #14 February 18, 2008 1:36:05 PM
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Looks like 5 might be a hard-coded limit at the moment - I've gone through every file I can find, and not seen anything that looked like it would enable >5 cap ship types... You can have any number less than 5, just not a single one more ( I think that there's a similar issue with adding extra fighter types - you can create different fighter squad types, which will work, but it seems you can't assign more than two types to one structure/carrier type... I hope this gets looked at in a future patch (or if a patch isn't necessary, perhaps a kindly developer could tell us what we're doing wrong!)
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Reply #15 February 18, 2008 1:55:59 PM
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I am having this problem too. I am trying to create capitol ship hero's. and it is not working becouse of this.
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Reply #16 February 19, 2008 11:56:41 PM
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Bump for 1.03 possibility, also adding a third page to the Frigate factory doesn't work (messes up UI then crashes)
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Reply #17 February 20, 2008 12:20:12 AM
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What if you created your own structure that builds your custom ships?
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Reply #18 February 20, 2008 12:46:35 AM
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What if you created your own structure that builds your custom ships?


That's what I'm attempting to do now. The way it's done is so absolutely convoluted though it's proving to be more difficult than I thought. I don't see why frigates and their build order isn't simply defined in the structure rather than being in the player file, and why the class of the ship is linked to the structure. A simple "this structure builds this ship and this ship and this ship" would have much much easier.
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Reply #19 February 20, 2008 2:37:18 PM
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Curious as to why the devs have not addressed this question directly???
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Reply #20 March 18, 2008 5:30:57 AM
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I believe the max number of cap ship slots is hardcoded in the game .exe I have found several lines in the code, using uedit, that seem to activate the available slots for the factory. However, my attempt to add in my own lines to create the extra slots broke the .exe If anyone is more familiar with this than me, I hope you can take this info and run with it.
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